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Regards the anti social stuff it's about time the club did something about the coke dens in th toilets it's obvious that this goes on---maybe pay police to bring in sniffer dogs every now and again.

I maybe alone in thinking that was a penalty. Not the harshest, but not the softest either. Maeda, not only barged Cantwell but he then smashed him with his arm in the process. If you look at the line Maeda was going in, it was a barge and no attempt to get the ball. Definite penalty for me.

Maeda was a dirty bastard and the ref continually spoke to him (warned him at least 4 times) but refused to book him.

Whilst Sundays defeat lays firmly at the door of Beale some of the vitriol directed at him online has been beyond the pale.

If you need sniffer dogs to figure out what's going on in the bogs you must have a nose like Daniella Westbrook.

He took Ostersunds to the Europa League. Beat Arsenal, at the Emirates.

Not ideal but I think you have to give him time to properly incorporate the summer signings and find his best starting combinations. Pre-season laid bare that we were undercooked and what has happened was always on the cards. Obviously the period of time given will be reduced if the tendency of performance and results don't improve. After financial front loading of squad development, we are staring at a potential widening gulf re. Españolification and as expectations get more unrealistic, fewer clued up managers will even want the job.

Shitebag of the highest order. BB I mean not you SBG

Counting ‘buses and checking their timetables is a lot more comfortable than chasing burglars and the like.

Bigger league, definitely. Better paid job, probably. Bigger club, no. Bigger 'job', definitely not.

I think a journo quizzed Moyes about how B&HA had 70% possession and he replied 'they can keep the ball, we'll keep the 3 points'. Or words to that effect. It's a simple game.

I doubt Hagi would relish returning to play under Beale anyway

The Kevin Muscat link is interesting. I've heard and read quite a few dismiss him fairly quickly. One criticism seems to be that 'we'd be copying them'. If it works, who cares? That aside there is some truth in that he's an Australian who has managed in Melbourne and is now managing Yokohama in Japan, very similar to the current manager of Spurs. He won the league with Melbourne and has now won it in Japan. Muscat has also been an assistant coach for the Australian national side, under the management of the current Spurs coach. So there are clearly parallels. Muscat also had an unsuccessful spell managing in Belgium for a side I'd never heard of. It seems clear that the standard of Japanese domestic football is higher than in Scotland. When you add in the huge cultural differences he must be experiencing then I think it's fair to praise what Muscat has achieved there. He's not some rookie, he's managed 3 club sides, winning the league with 2 of them. Another thing is Yokohama are part owned by the City Group, who own a plethora of clubs around the world, most famously Man City. I personally hate what they're doing to football, I'd outlaw multi club ownership and sports washing, but I'm not in charge so it is what it is. My personal animosity apart, City do seem to know what they're doing. Having billions at your disposable certainly helps you build a good infrastructure, and it seems they not only look for players, but also coaches too. Either way they seem to rate Muscat. His time at Rangers didn't ingratiate him to most of our support. He was a limited player at best, with a reputation for thuggery, he passed through fairly quickly without making much of an impression on me. Being a limited player has no bearing on whether you might be a good coach of course. So in his credit column he does have some experience of the club and the league. I've no clue if the link with Muscat is real or not, but it's not a ridiculous link. I suspect he's within our budget, as an Australian he'd have little trouble settling here, he knows the club and what's expected and he might view us as a good next step in his career.

NB: While there is every reason to give Lowry game-time away from Ibrox, sending Hagi on loan too was a mistake. Maybe Lawrence and Lammers can cover for Cantwell, but his creativity is only rivalled by Hagi.

I'd bite Potter's hand off. Brighton should be our role model.

All fair points. TBH I was just going off of what I have read in regards to their league positions. I have not really paid attention to how he sets his teams up etc so I can't really argue for or against. I feel torn as I really like Beale (I've followed him on social media for years and he and his family seem really happy with life in Scotland) however I am not sure he has the experience to turn this around.

Why? If you can see progress, sure. If not, punt them.

Potter did well at Brighton - most do well at Brighton. Potter got sacked by Chelsea - most get sacked by Chelsea. I wonder if it’s the Club and not the man.

*looks up Potter's number* *calls Potter* Bennett: Hello, Graham? 'Mon. Potter: Say no more. *Rangers appoint Potter* 2 minutes.

Even when the evidence is staring us in the face and waving a flag above its head saying "look at me", there will still be people who prefer the apparently reasonable approach of setting new goals and delaying the inevitable, presumably with the intention of exhibiting "fairness". It's called prevarication, the favourite hobby of people who prefer not taking decisions. Beale has been here 10 months. He's been able to rebuild the squad under his own personal direction. He has won nothing. He hasn't won a single game that counted for anything. But, more importantly, this isn't about Beale, it's about Rangers. By delaying the inevitable conclusion to Beale's tenure, it's Rangers we gamble with.

Do you think any new player is going to make a public declaration that he joined despite the manager?

The smell of hash is everywhere outside the stadium.

I've been pretty clear on this for weeks. We look a slow, one dimensional, boring, predictable outfit under Michael Beale. We don't create many quality chances and we don't take many of the high quality that we do tend to create. I'm often left wondering what we are waiting for during games. Its like walking football at times. He hasn't wont a big game yet. In big games we seem to produce more individual errors than any other team I can remember. We are not being beaten by much better teams (PSV away apart) but against Celtic specifically in the league and cup games last season we threw those games away. Do I want him sacked? I don't want him sacked as much as I have lost all confidence in him and don't see any signs that he can turn it around. And the sooner we can make a change the sooner I believe we can salvage this season. But then we need to make sure the replacement is the right one. And the evidence suggests the board cant do that either. Gerrard was the exception to the rule. No manager will get a few trophyless seasons here again. I wonder if Beale expects the same level of time as Gerrard had to build something. When he came in as manager he made a lot of noise about how much he thought of the club, his connection with the support and how much he and his family enjoyed life here. It was a gamble putting that kind of information on the line as things can change very quickly here. Its a football club where winning is everything, life is on a knife edge. Its not a retirement village. Can he turn it around? Yes, of course he can. What does he need to do to turn it around? He needs to win. Quite simply. He needs to ensure the league cup is won. He needs to get this lethargic start to games we seem to have had for years now eradicated, and ensure we start games hungry with tempo. High pressing and high chance creation. He needs that team to go out and play every league and domestic cup game like its his last. I'd put Europe on the backburner to a degree as a run in Europe wont save his job if he falters domestically. Beating Betis wont win him back much of the support. Being close enough in the league to go top with a win at Parkhead in new year will. It looked like we were tentative and waiting for something on Sunday. It felt like that at Kilmarnock, Servette and at Ross County. It feels like we do that every week. That needs to go. We should have been more aggressive / physical from the off. The players could have blown themselves out and then had the international break to recover. We can also make 5 subs if players who are not fully match fit like Roofe get tired. I want him to be critical of referees if they make a bad decision. Call it as it is, if they make a bad call, tell the world. Complain about it. The next bad refereeing decision could cost him his job. Who cares about any touchline ban or fines that follow. He may be gone by the time the letter comes in the post. Don't do referees any favours by keeping your powder dry, they do none for us. Don't come out with 'I don't want to be critical of refs'. That just makes it easier for them to do us over. There were games at Tynecastle and Easter road last season where we approached games under Beale with a different level of energy. The evidence is there that we can do it. We just haven't seen enough of it. We need that every week. He needs to have belief in his signings. Back his own players. It worked last season with Cantwell and Raskin. Oddly both seem to have regressed massively this season. Get Danilo and Cifuentes in the team. Get Dessers sharp. Find a way to make Lammers effective. The club wont make a change yet rightly or wrongly. Everything is still in the managers hands. Its up to him where he goes from here.

I voted to keep him as a new manager starting would have to be exceptional. These players claim Beale impressed them to sign so it's time they repaid him.

F*cking. Genius.

He won't get sacked but he's on extremely thin ice. I would say yes if there was an obvious and readily made candidate but I'm not seeing it anywhere so I reckon hes got to be given time.

If he stays then his job will be to secure runners up spot as I previously stated Rangers fans of the present day think this mediocrity is acceptable.

Not for me. Maradona in place of Ronaldo up front and Johan CruiJff in at CM.

It still really annoys me that Beale turned his back on one of the few really talented players we have on the books. What the hell was he playing at?

So, it’s come to this. The Famous Rangers have to learn from Brighton and bleeding Hove Albion, Football League, Division III (South) But you’re right.

knows the league knows the club would do a job up here

You are not. Maeda barged into him and kicked his legs ... I saw the slow-motion but once and was having a hearty laugh when there wasn't a VAR on this. Likewise with one of the Japanese jumping into Tav's ankles with a straight leg, leaving Tav on the ground. That was orange at best, and a sending off in Europe.

If Michael Beale's time is up? I suspect the Board will give him the opportunity to secure the League Cup unless the spiralling downward trend continues; however, if the choice before our Board is : 1. Graham Potter 2. Harry Potter 3. Hairy Patter I know what one they will appoint. They love someone that talks and talks.

at some point we have to give a manager a proper chance. at very least 2 full seasons

Bloke’s got too much time on his hands.

Not sure if this has been posted already but:

It's inconsequential what the fans want to happen (if that's what you meant by 'people') unless they stage a massive protest outside Ibrox. I think Bennet/the Board will delay any decision on Beale for the moment, but again, if it's deemed to be correct about the Beale contract/compensation under 1yr, then I think that decision won't be far away if there isn't a 180 degree change. It's just not going to happen immediately as most fans would prefer, including myself.

I tore my Medial Cruciate Ligament at the tail end of last year and the physio said more and more research shows that mobilisation as soon as possible after the intial 24/48 hours is more beneficial than resting it completely for ligament injuries

Potter! Hassenhutl! Glassner! There are a few good ones out of work.

He's got 11 days to overcome it.

I voted yes. We are a shambles. He has lost the fans spectacularly. He bought those players and has mismanaged them from day 1 of the close season.

The board are ina very tricky position now, he’s lost the fans but can the board really sack him after a handful of games in the season? I don’t think Beale can turn this around, but also I’m not sure that the board have the evidence yet that it isn’t going to work.

Pleasing that Halliday reads Gersnet.

To answer the question you first have to decide whether it's likely there might be some advantage in delaying what to me seems an inevitability. In other words, have you seen anything in Beale's leadership that suggests a reversal of current misfortunes. For myself, I see nothing to hang hope on and I would sack him now before even more damage is done. Basically, I think we have a windbag whose entire focus is on his own status.

Instead of asking 'should he be sacked'. Ask - Why should he be kept on. The answers 'its too early' or 'he beat Celtic in that last dead rubber' don't answer the question.

Done their job won them the game!